RON JOHNSON :: SHOP DIFFERENT: HOW RETAIL REVEALED APPLE'S GENIUS

What does it take to think differently, lead boldly, and keep moving forward when even your biggest ideas don't go as planned? In this episode of the ContenderCast, Justin sits down with legendary retail executive Ron Johnson, former CEO of JCPenney, the leader who helped transform Target, and the architect behind Apple's groundbreaking retail stores and Genius Bar. Ron shares lessons from working alongside Steve Jobs, the thinking behind his new book Shop Different, what extraordinary success, and failure, taught him about leadership, and why bringing people along may matter just as much as having a bold vision. They also explore the future of retail in an AI and agentic commerce world, why human connection still matters, and how Ron's definition of leadership has evolved through decades of innovation, reinvention, and resilience.